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Dainese 2010

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Gamerfou
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Dainese has annouced their new products for 2010, including an updated Wave back protector (now homologated at level 2 and with an improved shoulders protection) :

http://www.motomag.com/local/cache-vignettes/L425xH496/0-dainese-dorsale...
I'm curious to see it's real results at independant impact tests!

the final D-Air airbag for racing suits :
http://www.motomag.com/local/cache-vignettes/L640xH427/0-dainese-lorenzo...

and a new chest protector, now made of a single piece :
http://www.moto-net.com/images/dainese-usine/visite-dainese-mnc-2.jpg
(I don't know if it's homologated)

oedem
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incredible! dainese makes a

incredible!
dainese makes a BP level2!!!

it's time to make a party Party

Big smile Big smile Big smile

seriously, at least there is a shoulder protection but, in order to know if back protector is good, we have to wait for some impact tests

Alaxandair
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Gamerfou ha scritto:Dainese

Gamerfou ha scritto:
Dainese has annouced their new products for 2010, including an updated Wave back protector (now homologated at level 2 and with an improved shoulders protection) :

http://www.motomag.com/local/cache-vignettes/L425xH496/0-dainese-dorsale...
I'm curious to see it's real results at independant impact tests!

the final D-Air airbag for racing suits :
http://www.motomag.com/local/cache-vignettes/L640xH427/0-dainese-lorenzo...

and a new chest protector, now made of a single piece :
http://www.moto-net.com/images/dainese-usine/visite-dainese-mnc-2.jpg
(I don't know if it's homologated)


Thanks you for posting.
We'll wait for independent impact test (the lvl 1 wave was something as 38 kN -tset motocykl-, the new?).
Anyway I see dainese still is using hard armour. I am not happy for that.
Let's see how the airbag issue will proceed Crazy ...

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Gamerfou
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correct me if I'm wrong, but

correct me if I'm wrong, but 38kN was reached on a "weak point"... on average, the Wave was a pretty good lvl1 back protector.

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dainese

La sensazione che ho io che Dainese, a parte l'airbag che chissà cosa fa e come è, stia scoprendo l'acqua calda.

Siccome il consumatore medio non conosce i prodotti inglesi (che nessuno, fateci caso, importa... importano di tutto ma non i protettori: casualità?), Dainese mi sembra tenere d'occhio la situazione, prende spunti, continua a vendere prodotti collaudati.

Poi un bel giorno presenta chest protector (ormai conosciuto perché visto in tv in motogp), aggiorna il wave a livello 2 (uuuu). All'apparenza di molti novità incredibili. In pratica riedizioni di concetti già applicati da altri prima, meno famosi e meno ricchi e meno "vincenti".

Non sarà mica una novità il chest protector, vero?

Per quanto riguarda il wave liv.1, il picco è previsto dall'omologazione. Il picco sul liv.1 è 24 kN. 38 è ben oltre...

Comunque vediamo se Dainese, con questi protettori con guscio rigido (sembrano da cross...), è riuscita a migliorare i concetti e i risultati espressi dai produttori seri di protettori.

Vedremo.

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Alaxandair
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Gamerfou ha scritto:correct

Gamerfou ha scritto:
correct me if I'm wrong, but 38kN was reached on a "weak point"... on average, the Wave was a pretty good lvl1 back protector.

the max weak point should be 24 kN, not 38 kN.
Remember that, with a weak point of 4 kN, you could break your spine.
I do not think it was pretty good: on average it was 16kN, 2 kN less thes the max average. Not so good, there is better.

Conny hai perfettamente ragione: io non vedo nessuna novità.

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Gamerfou
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OK, I do have (and use

OK, I do have (and use everyday) a dainese wave, so I may not be really objective.

but depending on what magazine you trust, you can also say that the Wave is measured at 14kN (Ride) or 12kN (Moto magazine). ..

but still I agree you can find better, and my next one will probably not be a dainese.

Alaxandair
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Gamerfou ha scritto:OK, I do

Gamerfou ha scritto:
OK, I do have (and use everyday) a dainese wave, so I may not be really objective.

but depending on what magazine you trust, you can also say that the Wave is measured at 14kN (Ride) or 12kN (Moto magazine). ..

but still I agree you can find better, and my next one will probably not be a dainese.


Look: you are speaking about average. I am speakng about peak force.
The average is OK for the certification. 13.8 kN (ride 2008): but look, ride says that the peak is 27 kN, over the limits!
second image, ride giugno 2008.
http://www.motosicurezza.com/proteggere-schiena-tre-comparative-paraschiena

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"The Cambridge standard for the CE marking is the highest in the world, some criticized Dr Woods , saying he was over the top, however when you are sliding down the road having fallen off at 120mph you may be thanking him."

Gamerfou
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I know, but what surprises me

I know, but what surprises me is that moto magazine doesn't mention any impact peak / weak point, though they do it for other backprotectors.

but motocykl mention similar weakness, so I guess that moto magazine is wrong Wink

frabiker (non verificato)
A me avevanno detto che

A me avevanno detto che stavano pensando anche ad un sistema urbano,
io proponevo un gilet con anti-torsione del collo (indispensabile) e altre protezioni cruciali.
per ora non ho nemmeno visto una bozza di prototipo....
A me sinceramente della tuta con aibag non mi interessa nulla. Oltre tutto chi compra una tuta in pelle 99/100 e` uno che deve andare a piegare, o in pista. Nel primo caso, vuole rischiare volontariamente, nel secondo e` gia` protetto della pista stessa.

In ambito stradale invece ci sono le persone che rischiano di piu` e alle quali si dovrebbe pensare. E` proprio quello che dicevo: non rendetelo un prodotto di nicchia come state palesemente facendo.

Che arrivati nel 2009 dopo 10 e piu` anni dall`invenzione dell`airbag per motociclista, sarebbe ora iniziare a vedere in vendita qualcosa di vagamente serio e possibilmente completo.

Chissa` se hanno in cantiere qualcosa, non mi ero convinto granche`.

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